Monthly Archives: October 2025

Henry Giroux and Nate Bellinger

Today’s show is in two parts. First, longtime friend of Forthright Radio, scholar, public intellectual, McMaster University Chair for Scholarship in the Public Interest, and The Paulo Freire Distinguished Scholar in Critical Pedagogy, Henry Giroux, joins us again to discuss many issues facing our nation and the world – from the increasing militarization of America at home and on the seas, to the young people he teaches who are rising to the challenges of becoming effective cultural producers in this era unlike any in human history.

In the last part of the show Nate Bellinger, Our Children’s Trust’s Supervising Senior Staff Attorney, shares with us about the latest in the recent federal district court decision that Federal District Dourt Judge Dana Christenson rendered on October 16, 2025, in the Lighthiser v Trump case, and their on-going legal efforts representing their youth plaintiffs suing for a livable climate.

The link to read the students’ Public Intellectuals Project essays Henry Giroux mentioned in our interview: https://publicintellectualsproject.humanities.mcmaster.ca

In the KZYX pledge drive show, we read this poem by Yevgeny Yevtushenko:

Talk

You’re a brave man they tell me.
I’m not.
Courage has never been my quality.
Only I thought it disproportionate
so to degrade myself as others did.
No foundations trembled. My voice
no more than laughed at pompous falsity;
I did no more than write, never denounced,
I left out nothing I had thought about,
defended who deserved it, put a brand
on the untalented, the ersatz writers
(doing what anyhow had to be done).
And now they press to tell me that I’m brave.
How sharply our children will be ashamed
taking at last their vengeance for these horrors
remembering how in so strange a time
common integrity could look like courage.

by Yevgeny Yevtushenko
Translated by Robin Milner-Galland and Peter Levi

Articles pertinent to these interviews:

Stephen Miller and the Making of the Fascist Subject https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/10/17/stephen-miller-and-the-making-of-the-fascist-subject/

Trump’s America: Echoes of a Fascist Past https://socialistproject.ca/2025/10/trumps-america-echoes-fascist-past/

Pedagogies of Repression: Ford, Trump and the War on Education https://socialistproject.ca/2025/09/pedagogies-of-repression/

Charlie Kirk’s Death Is a Symptom of a National Political Culture in Crisis https://truthout.org/articles/charlie-kirks-death-is-a-symptom-of-a-national-political-culture-in-crisis/

Trump’s Theater of Cruelty: Fascism’s Malignant Return https://www.laprogressive.com/immigration-reform/theater-of-cruelty

The Democratic Party: Architects of Cowardice, Accomplices to Fascism https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/09/08/the-democratic-party-architects-of-cowardice-accomplices-to-fascism/

The War on Memory: How Trump’s Cultural Erasure Threatens Democracy in the U.S. and Canada https://www.laprogressive.com/democracy/trumps-cultural-erasure-threatens-canadian-democracy

Plastic surgeons wrestle with requests for ‘Mar-a-Lago face’: ‘You’re going to look like Maleficenthttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/nov/18/mar-a-lago-face-plastic-surgery

Trump’s Warfare State: Domestic Terrorism and Spectacular Violence https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/08/29/domestic-terrorism-and-spectacularized-violence-in-trumps-warfare-state/

Resisting the Deadly Language of American Fascism https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/07/11/resisting-the-deadly-language-of-american-fascism/

A Broad Wave of Firings Followed Charlie Kirk’s Assassination https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/26/us/kirk-critics-fired-free-speech.html

New Trump Order Among ‘Scariest Things I’ve Seen in US Politics,’ Civil Rights Attorney Says https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-vigilante-portal

Kamala Harris Thinks Trump Is a “Communist.” That’s Insane. https://jacobin.com/2025/09/harris-newsom-trump-communist-oligarchy

‘An unworkable request:’ Federal judge dismisses climate lawsuit https://dailymontanan.com/2025/10/16/an-unworkable-request-federal-judge-dismisses-climate-lawsuit/

The Kids Who Sued Trump Just Lost Big in Court. Or Did They? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/18/climate/climate-lawsuit-children-montana-trump-health.html

Judge Throws Out Children’s Lawsuit Against Trump’s Energy Policies https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/climate/montana-youth-trump-climate-lawsuit-dismissed.html

Young Activists Say 3 Trump Orders Violate Constitutional Rights https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/climate/lighthiser-trial-climate-trump.html?searchResultPosition=2

Young People Suing Trump Over Climate Have Their Day in Federal Court https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/climate/montana-lawsuit-trump-executive-orders-energy.html

Hawaii Settles With Young Plaintiffs in Climate Case https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/climate/hawaii-youth-climate-lawsuit.html

Youth Climate Activists Get Major Win in Montana Supreme Court https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/18/climate/held-montana-youth-climate-lawsuit.html

John Fugelsang SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE: A Sane Person’s Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds

Our guest is actor, comedian, writer, political commentator, pod-caster and television host, John Fugelsang. His range is very wide … from hosting America’s Funniest Home Videos in the 1990s to his current show, Tell Me Everything, on Sirius XM Insight since 2015. His unpretentious, natural charm enabled him, for example, to lengthen his interview with George Harrison and Ravi Shankar, which led to Harrison’s impromptu last public performance at the VH1 Studios in NY city.

His book, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE: A Sane Person’s Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds, was published in early September, 2025 and quickly became a NY Times best seller. At a time when Christian Nationalist extremists have taken control of many of our institutions in government, education, and information, claiming that what they do is in the name of Jesus, Fugelsang’s book is timely and crucial in reclaiming what Jesus actually preached. Whether one is religious, atheistic, or indifferent, one can’t escape the impact on our lives, our democracy and the health of our biosphere of their machinations.

I keep thinking of a statement by Gandhi, “To see the universal and all-pervading Spirit of Truth face to face, one must be able to love the meanest of creation as oneself. And a man who aspires after that cannot afford to keep out of any field of life. That is why my devotion to Truth has drawn me into the field of politics; and I can say without the slightest hesitation, and yet in all humility, that those who say that religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion means.”


John Fugelsang has the gift of seeking and telling truth with an open heart and in a humorous way that helps his message get through. As he says at the very beginning of his book, “I’ve come to view Jesus the way I’ve come to view Elvis. I love the guy, but some of the fan clubs terrify me.”
We spoke with him on October 6, 2025 via Zoom.

Articles, etc. pertinent to this interview:

‘ICE Goes Masked for a Single Reason’ https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/08/opinion/ice-masks-immigration.html

George Harrison July 24th 1997 VH1 Studios New York City NY. VH1 News Special “The Last Performance” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ1ytZo88IQ

‘Vertical Morality’ Might Describe Why MAGA Christians Seem So Unchristian https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vertical-morality-maga-christians_l_68dc8386e4b0b11989f00fb8?origin=home-life-unit

Pope Leo Issues Pointed Message About Immigrants After Donald Trump Critique https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pope-leo-donald-trump-immigration_n_68e38176e4b08634f761fd72?origin=home-whats-happening-unit

Sarah Mullally is named as first female archbishop of Canterbury https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/03/sarah-mullally–named-first-female-archbishop-of-canterbury

Bishop Budde Expected More Pushback After Asking Trump for ‘Mercy’ https://sojo.net/articles/interview/reconstruct/bishop-budde-expected-more-pushback-after-asking-trump-mercy

Christian group ‘deceived’ supreme court about LGBTQ+ research, cited scholars say https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/06/alliance-defending-freedom-supreme-court-conversion-therapy

He’s Young, Talented and Openly Religious. Is He the Savior Democrats Have Been Waiting for? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/01/opinion/james-talarico-religious-left.html

Why MAGA Evangelicals Can Cheer Love and Hate at the Same Time https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/opinion/erika-kirk-charlie-trump-miller.html

Pope Leo Breaks Down Why MAGA Is ‘Not Really’ Pro-Life https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pope-leo-breaks-down-why-maga-is-not-really-pro-life_n_68dd802ae4b0c450ba64c434?origin=home-zone-c-unit

Transgender Americans are seeing a wave of hate unleashed by Charlie Kirk’s killing https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/25/transgender-americans-are-seeing-a-wave-of-hate-unleashed-by-charlie-kirks-killing

Autistic people could teach Donald Trump a thing or two about focus, facts and empathy https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/28/autistic-people-donald-trump-autism-us-president-rfk-jr

Oklahoma superintendent who put Trump Bibles in classrooms resigns https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/25/oklahoma-superintendent-resigns-ryan-walters

We Need to Think Straight About God and Politics https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/25/opinion/kirk-trump-christianity.html

The Republican Effort To Remake Schools In God’s Image https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-republicans-christianity-public-schools_n_68d6b186e4b0185d00688d38

Trump’s NSPM-7 Labels Common Beliefs As Terrorism “Indicators”
New directive targets “anti-Christian,” “anti-American,” and “anti-capitalism” opinions https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-common-beliefs

Ann Fagan Ginger, Tireless Defender of Civil Liberties, Dies at 100 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/us/ann-fagan-ginger-dead.html?searchResultPosition=1

John Trudell on the Christian World View https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhpYEvZ-Oz4