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Sarah Schulman: The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity

Sarah Schulman, novelist, playwright, screenwriter, nonfiction writer, and AIDS historian is the Ralla Klepak Professor of English at Northwestern University.

She was a member of ACT UP, New York from 1987 to 1992, and a co-founder of the Lesbian Avengers. Today she serves on the Advisory Board of Jewish Voice for Peace, and is co-director of The ACT UP Oral History Project ( https://www.actuporalhistory.org/).

She is the author of 21 books, including Let the Record Show: A Political History of ACT UP, New York 1987-1993; Conflict Is Not Abuse: Overstating Harm, Community Responsibility and the Duty of Repair; and The Gentrification of the Mind: Witness To A Lost Imagination.

Her latest book is THE FANTASY AND NECESSITY OF SOLIDARITY, published by Thesis.

We spoke with her on September 4, 2025.

This edition ends with excerpts from the text of a talk given by Bernice Johnson Reagon at the 1981 West Coast Women’s Music Festival in Yosemite, titled: COALITION POLITICS: TURNING THE CENTURY. https://www.rootsofjusticetraining.org/uploads/1/3/9/1/139148852/coalition-politics.pdf

The Zionist consensus among US Jews has collapsed. Something new is emerging https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2025/oct/07/american-jews-zionism

President of Northwestern, a School Attacked by the G.O.P., Will Resign https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/04/us/northwestern-president-resigns.html?searchResultPosition=1

President of Northwestern University quits amid layoffs forced by Trump cuts https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/04/northwestern-university-president-resigns-trump-cuts

‘Censorship’: over 115 scholars condemn cancellation of Harvard journal issue on Palestine https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/aug/14/harvard-journal-israel-gaza-cancellation

The chilling effect of Title VI investigations: the professors accused of antisemitism https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/campus-investigations-professors-gaza-antisemitism

UC Berkeley shares 160 names with Trump administration in ‘McCarthy era’ move https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/12/uc-berkeley-trump-administration-antisemitism

US imposes sanctions on Palestinians for requesting war crimes inquiry https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/04/us-sanctions-palestinian-human-rights

US reportedly suspends visa approvals for nearly all Palestinian passport holders https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/31/palestine-passport-visa-approval-suspension

Ursula von der Leyen calls for suspension of EU trade with Israel https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/10/ursula-von-der-leyen-suspension-eu-trade-israel

From Washington to Westminster, the populist right needs to erase history to succeed. It’s up to us to resist https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/09/washington-westminster-populist-right-smithsonian-nigel-farage

Leaked ‘Gaza Riviera’ plan dismissed as ‘insane’ attempt to cover ethnic cleansing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/01/leaked-gaza-riviera-plan-dismissed-as-insane-attempt-to-cover-ethnic-cleansing

Palestinians warned of a genocide in 2023. Why weren’t we believed? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/30/israel-gaza-palestine-genocide

Democrats Wrote Off Anti-War Activists In 2024. Now Concern For Gaza Is Unavoidable. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-failure-gaza-big-lesson_n_68acd3a5e4b0495eade021bf

Norway wealth fund sells Caterpillar stake over Israel allegations https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/26/norway-wealth-fund-excludes-caterpillar-over-israel-allegations

From the streets of Baghdad, I saw a clear line to the bloodshed in Gaza https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/26/gaza-iraq-baghdad-west-war-crimes

Trump unlawfully cancelled $2.2bn in Harvard research grants, judge rules https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/03/trump-administration-harvard-funding-cut

Adam Shatz THE REBEL’S CLINIC: The Revolutionary Lives of Frantz Fanon

Adam Shatz‘s latest book, The Rebel’s Clinic: the Revolutionary Lives of Frantz Fanon, examines the intersections of the African diaspora in the Caribbean Islands, WWII France and it’s aftermath, and the inevitable violence that colonialism creates and requires to maintain itself. He is the US editor of The London Review of Books and a contributor to The New York Times Magazine, The New York Review of Books, The New Yorker, and other publications. He is also a visiting professor at Bard College and the host of the podcast “Myself with Others.”  He is the author of two earlier books: Prophets Outcast: A Century of Dissident Jewish Writing about Zionism and Israel and Writers and Missionaries: Essays on the Radical Imagination.

Perhaps like me, you were aware of Frantz Fanon. You saw his books, particularly THE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH, in the bookshelves of people your respected, but you didn’t really know too much about him.

Frantz Fanon was born on the Caribbean island of Martinique in 1925. He was educated to identify as a French man, and as he wrote in his book, BLACK SKIN, WHITE MASK, it was a shock to serve in WWII, be wounded, receive a medal and still be seen as an African, an object of fear. He studied in Lyon, France, and became a psychiatrist in the post-war intellectual ferment of existentialism and the rise of decolonization movements.

He was a playwright, a practicing psychiatrist, the author of numerous articles in scientific journals, a teacher, a diplomat, a journalist, the editor of an anti-colonial newspaper, the author of three books, and a major Pan-Africanist and internationalist, who became a political militant as France efforts to suppress the Algerian independence movement became more violent and vicious. But unlike most militants, he had the training and intellectual capacity to analyze and articulate the processes internal to the individual and external to the culture that lead to the point of violence, and whether violence can be justified or even dis-intoxicating.

Like Ernesto “Che” Guevara–another revolutionary who valued the poetic and was a committed internationalist, doctor, soldier, teacher, and theorist–Fanon’s life has much to inform our understanding of where we find ourselves in struggle today.

Thanks to David Rovics for permission to post his song, “As the Bombs Rain Down” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQbx5zPxGAk&list=OLAK5uy_lNIlbd6R0lC4TICKXq2ylk9-CrjXHDcc4

The World May Be Entering a Much Bloodier Era https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/opinion/international-world/coups-climate-change-africa-sahel.html

Dossier no. 26: Frantz Fanon: The brightness of metal https://mronline.org/2020/03/04/dossier-no-26-frantz-fanon-the-brightness-of-metal/

Jon Schwartz and Elise Swain plus David Rovic’s songs

Our guests today on Forthright Radio are two journalists from the non-profit on-line news organization, The Intercept, Jon Schwartz and Elise Swain.

We watched in horror on October 7, 2023 as Hamas gunmen launched surprise attacks on Israeli military and civilian targets along the Gaza border during the Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah. It came 50 years and a day after Egyptian and Syrian forces launched an assault during Yom Kippur to retrieve territory Israel had taken during the conflict in 1967. The New York Times reports that there were about 1,200 deaths, including 766 Israeli civilians, 36 of them children, and 373 members of the security forces, plus approximately 250 Israeli civilians and soldiers taken hostage, including 30 children. The attack is considered the bloodiest day in Israel’s modern history, and the deadliest for Jews since the Holocaust.

In response, The Israeli Defense Forces launched and sustained brutal retaliatory bombings and near total restrictions on water, food, fuel and other necessities for life, vowing to continue til Hamas has been destroyed. As of January 11, 2024, more than 23,000 Palestinians have been killed, the overwhelming majority of them women and children. Unknown numbers of others remain buried beneath the rubble of the obliterated homes, hospitals, mosques, schools, churches, and other crucial infrastructure.

International efforts for a cease fire have been thwarted by the US Government in the United Nations, even as President Biden has gone around Congress to send more US weapons to Israel.

Meanwhile, South Africa has brought a case to the International Court of Justice, accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza. In the United States and around the world, huge demonstrations continue to occur in support of g an immediate and sustained cease-fire. Many of these demonstrations are organized by Jewish peace groups, such as Jewish Voice for Peace, Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, Rabbis for Ceasefire.

These things and much more, leave me uncharacteristically unable to process the emotions that arise. The horror, the knowledge that through my government, without whom this could not and would not continue, I am complicit, my feelings of helplessness to affect change. So, the piece that Jon Schwartz and Elise Swain published on The Intercept on Christmas Eve, Merry Christmas! We All Belong in the Hague, spoke to me and moved me to invite them to Forthright Radio.


Elise Swain
is Photo Editor of The Intercept. Prior to this role, she was an associate producer for the Intercepted podcast, while working across various mediums for The Intercept, including writing, photography, video, illustration, and audio. Before joining The Intercept, she worked as a freelance artist and has a BFA in photo and video from the School of Visual Arts. She is based in Brooklyn, New York.


Before joining First Look Media, Jon Schwarz worked for Michael Moore’s Dog Eat Dog Films and was a research producer for Moore’s “Capitalism: A Love Story.” He’s contributed to many publications, including the New Yorker, the New York Times, The Atlantic, the Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones, and Slate, as well as NPR and “Saturday Night Live.” In 2003, he collected on a $1,000 bet that Iraq would have no weapons of mass destruction.

We are especially grateful to David Rovics for permission to include songs from his recent collection, NOTES FROM A HOLOCAUST IN STANDARD TUNING, in the web post of this edition of Forthright Radio. You can find more of his songs here: https://soundcloud.com/davidrovics/sets/gaza

The heading photo is of an American flag flying behind barbed wire and fencing at Guantanamo Bay on June 27, 2023 by Elise Swain. Used with permission.

Articles pertinent to this interview:

Merry Christmas! We All Belong in Prison at The Hague. https://theintercept.com/2023/12/24/merry-christmas-war-crimes/

I Calculated How Much of My Money the U.S. Sent to Kill Palestinians. You Can Too. https://theintercept.com/2023/12/28/israel-us-taxes-gaza-war/

‘Truly Shocking’: Daily Gaza Death Rate Shatters That of All Other 21st Century Wars – Israel’s bombardment and invasion of Gaza have also killed more than 10,000 children in nearly 100 days, or 1% of the 1.1 million children in the besieged enclave. https://www.commondreams.org/news/gaza-death-rate-21st-century?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=9e70fea354-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2024_01_12_no_tracking&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-77b634d84f-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D

Ralph Nader on Gaza Ceasefire & Why Suppression of Palestine Advocacy Is the Real Problem on Campus http://democracynow.org/2024/1/5/ralph_nader_on_stopping_gaza_war

White House Faces Calls to Stop Ex-Guantánamo Detainee’s Forced Return to Russia https://theintercept.com/2023/10/03/guantanamo-bay-russia-uae-ravil-mingazov/

What Prison? Censorship Has Never Been Worse at Guantánamo Bay https://theintercept.com/2023/08/27/guantanamo-bay-photo-essay/

Released Guantánamo Detainees Are Still Being Denied Human Rights, U.N. Report Warns https://theintercept.com/2023/06/27/guantanamo-bay-kazakhstan-former-detainees/

Merry Christmas! We’re All Being Murdered by Capitalism. https://theintercept.com/2022/12/24/christmas-capitalism-covid-climate-change/

Merry Christmas, America! Let’s Remember the Children Who Live in Fear of Our Killer Drones. https://theintercept.com/2019/12/25/merry-christmas-us-drone-strikes/

Stakes high as South Africa brings claim of genocidal intent against Israel https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/04/stakes-high-as-south-africa-brings-claim-of-genocidal-intent-against-israel#:~:text=South%20Africa’s%20request%20for%20an,seemed%20implausible%20a%20fortnight%20ago.

Inside Israel’s plan to quash South Africa’s Gaza genocide case https://www.axios.com/2024/01/05/south-africa-gaza-genocide-icj-israel-plan

Israel Is Terrified the World Court Will Decide It’s Committing Genocide https://truthout.org/articles/israel-is-terrified-the-world-court-will-decide-its-committing-genocide/?utm_source=Truthout&utm_campaign=be70a0a56d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_11_16_08_07_COPY_02&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-046450dcb0-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D

Samantha Power Calls on Samantha Power to Resign Over Gaza https://theintercept.com/2023/12/15/samantha-power-israel-gaza-genocide/

The Gaza Protests Can Save Lives — Maybe Even Your Own https://theintercept.com/2023/11/03/gaza-protest-war/

How Biden’s State Department Conceals Its “Human Rights Black Hole” in the Middle East https://theintercept.com/2023/12/12/universal-declaration-of-human-rights-state-department/

On Top of Everything Else, Henry Kissinger Prevented Peace in the Middle East https://theintercept.com/2023/11/30/henry-kissinger-israel-egypt-soviet-union/

Hillary Clinton Is Lying About the History Between Hamas and Israel https://theintercept.com/2023/11/17/hillary-clinton-hamas-israel/

GOP and Dems Unite to Smear Gaza Ceasefire Supporters as “Pro-Hamas” https://theintercept.com/2023/11/09/republican-debate-hamas-gaza-ceasefire/

Hamas Attack Provides “Rare Opportunity” to Cleanse Gaza, Israeli Think Tank Says https://theintercept.com/2023/10/25/israel-hamas-opportunity/

The U.N. Is Powerless to Help Gaza. That’s How the U.S. Wants It. https://theintercept.com/2023/10/21/security-council-veto-united-nations/

Yes, This Is Israel’s 9/11 Both the U.S. and Israel were stunned to experience the ultraviolence they mete out to others. https://theintercept.com/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-september-11/

America Must Face Up to Israel’s Extremism https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opinion/israel-gaza-displacement.html

Arno J. Mayer, Unorthodox Historian of Europe’s Crises, Dies at 97 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/world/europe/arno-j-mayer-dead.html

Obituaries for Nuremberg Prosecutor Erase His Beliefs About the U.S. https://theintercept.com/2023/04/12/ben-ferencz-obituary-iraq-war/

‘Eradication of Journalism in Gaza’ Continues as Israel Kills Two More Reporters https://www.commondreams.org/news/assassination-gaza-journalists?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=23c34fceb9-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2024_01_01_09_14_COPY_02&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-77b634d84f-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D

Jon Stewart for Celebrity President. This Is Not a Joke! https://theintercept.com/2023/12/06/jon-stewart-for-president/

My Holiday Wish: Jon Stewart Runs for President https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/my-holiday-wish-jon-stewart-runs-for-president/