Our guest today is journalist, Christopher Mathias. His recent book is TO CATCH A FASCIST: THE FIGHT TO EXPOSE THE RADICAL RIGHT, published by Atria. It’s a deep dive into the resurgence of white nationalist and Neo-Nazi movements in the US, that centers on anti-fascist groups working to expose and stop their violence and intimidation.

Demonized as “extremist” by both conservatives and liberals, “antifa” became a bogeyman during Donald Trump’s first term. However, few Americans understood the dangerous work antifa was doing to disrupt and unmask a new generation of white supremacists, or listened when antifa sounded the alarm about these white supremacists taking positions of power. Now this underground network of militant anti-fascists continues in their determination to stop the rising tide of fascism in America.

We spoke with Christopher Mathias on April 7, 2026 via Zoom.

Articles, etc. pertinent to this interview:

Trump is Coup-Proofing the Military https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzQgLFsKjLJjrqMSbvDlXvRVmVKn

‘People should be scared’: convictions in US ‘antifa’ trial set dangerous precedent https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/29/texas-leftwing-antifa-activist-trial

Trump Administration Plans Summit Targeting Antifa: Report https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-counterterrorism-officials-plan-antifa-summit_n_69cba0ffe4b010178ee6f1f3?origin=home-latest-news-unit

Antifa used to unmask neo-Nazis, now it’s exposing ICE: ‘Predators don’t get anonymity’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/30/antifa-unmasking-ice

NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM/NSPM-7 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/

Members of neo-Nazi ‘active clubs’ join combat events at secretive Virginia compound https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/apr/07/neo-nazi-virginia-combat-event

‘Racist ideology lodges itself amid austerity politics’: newly elected French mayor on tackling far right https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/04/bally-bagayoko-austerity-politics-french-mayor-tackling-far-right

Italian council buys Mussolini’s villa to keep it away from ‘fascist nostalgics’ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/04/italian-council-buys-mussolini-villa-riccione-fascist-nostalgics

Pete Hegseth’s holy war: the militant Christian theology animating the US attack on Iran https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/apr/10/pete-hegseth-christianity-iran-war-crusade

Man Charged By Trump Admin After Removing Tear Gas From Crowd Found Not Guilty https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jonathan-caravello-not-guilty_n_69d801e6e4b048dba44c0d5f?origin=home-latest-news-unit

Revealed: FBI opened domestic terrorism investigations into anti-ICE activity across US https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/19/fbi-terrorism-investigations-anti-ice-activity

Bozeman’s Hidden History with the Ku Klux Klan https://sherilyndecter.com/bozemans-hidden-history-with-the-ku-klux-klan/

GRANDMOTHER FACES TRIAL IN ALABAMA FOR WEARING PENIS COSTUME TO NO KINGS PROTEST When the viral video cooled off, people thought the case against the 62-year-old would be dropped. Prosecutors doubled down. https://theintercept.com/2026/04/03/penis-costume-no-kings-protest-alabama-censorship/

Mark Twain’s War Prayer: Recited by Hal Holbrook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGu69C2wqc

Mark Twain “War Prayer” Jesse Welles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO0Uuhzti-U