Category Archives: Indigenous People

Betsy Gaines Quammen TRUE WEST: Myth and Mending on the Far Side of America

We interviewed historian, conservationist, author, Betsy Gaines Quammen, in 2020 when her book, AMERICAN ZION: CLIVEN BUNDY, GOD AND PUBLIC LANDS IN THE WEST was published. https://forthright.media/2020/03/18/betsy-gaines-quammen-american-zion-cliven-bundy-god-public-lands-in-the-west/

Her latest book, TRUE WEST: MYTH AND MENDING ON THE FAR SIDE OF AMERICA, was published this Fall by Torrey House Press. She received a doctorate in Environmental History from Montana State University in 2017, her dissertation focused on Mormon settlement and public land conflicts. She has studied various religious traditions over the years, with particular attention to how cultures view landscape and wildlife. The rural American west, pastoral communities of northern Mongolia, and the grasslands of East Africa have been her main areas of interest. She is the president of the Board of Directors of Wild Earth Guardians.

Although TRUE WEST focuses primarily on the intermountain west, what goes on in this region is having tremendous effect on our national politics and well-being. Just two days ago, the Colorado Supreme Court decided in favor of a suit brought by CO Republican and unaffiliated voters, working with Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, CREW, against CO Secretary of State Jena Griswold and Donald J. Trump, taking advantage of a CO law that allows voters to challenge a candidate’s eligibility. In this case the eligibility was challenged under Section 3 of the 14th amendment, claiming that the former president had engaged insurrection , based on his actions surrounding the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol attack by his supporters at his urging. As you will hear in this interview with Betsy Gaines Quammen, recorded in the Beyond the Deep End Studio on the Winter Solstice of 2023, extremist organizing in this region over more than a decade contributed to that insurrection. We share it with you now.

Oath Keepers’ son emerges from traumatic childhood to tell his own story in a long shot election bid https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-stewart-rhodes-dakota-adams-montana-e0b46f25dfe319afe29617fd7325eb10

How Mike Johnson’s creationist beliefs clash with climate facts: ‘He just wasn’t interestedhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/13/mike-johnson-creationist-beliefs-clash-with-climate-facts

Christian Nationalism May Not Be Serious, but It’s Dangerous https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/01/opinion/christian-nationalism-trump-renew-america.html

What the South’s population boom means for 2030 redistricting https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/20/census-population-estimates-reapportionment-00132620

The Myth of the Cowboy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/mar/20/myth-of-the-cowboy

Stuart Reid THE LUMUMBA PLOT: The Secret History of the CIA and a Cold War Assassination

Stuart A. Reid is an executive editor at Foreign Affairs magazine, and his book, THE LUMUMBA PLOT: THE SECRET HISTORY OF THE CIA AND A COLD WAR ASSASSINATION, is published by Knopf. You might wonder why we would focus on events in The Congo back in 1960, when there is so much happening right now.

Adam Hochschild, author of King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa, writes: “This is the book we’ve needed for years: a thorough, judicious, eloquent account of one of the twentieth century’s pivotal moments. Patrice Lumumba’s murder was a tragedy not just for his young and troubled country, but also for the way it stimulated Washington’s illusion that America could rearrange the world to its liking. Stuart Reid captures this ominous turning point with the clear-eyed wisdom it deserves.”

Beyond any of these considerations, the story of Patrice Lumumba is the tragic, heroic tale of a man born into dismal, colonial circumstances, with the indomitable thirst for knowledge and the chutzpah and savvy to rise to become the first prime minister of his country, the former Belgian Congo, and who, within within mere months is assassinated under the direction of the CIA.

Our guest, Stuart Reid, spent 6 years researching and writing this very engaging narrative. In addition to my appreciation of that, I am doubly grateful to him, because after engaging in an hour long interview, which I was then horrified to discover had not been recorded for unknown reasons, he graciously agreed to do a second interview, which I offer to you now.

Articles, etc., pertinent to this interview:

Stuart A. Reid is an executive editor at Foreign Affairs magazine, and his book, THE LUMUMBA PLOT: THE SECRET HISTORY OF THE CIA AND A COLD WAR ASSASSINATION, is published by Knopf. You might wonder why we would focus on events in The Congo back in 1960, when there is so much happening right now. Adam Hochschild, author of King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa, writes: “This is the book we’ve needed for years: a thorough, judicious, eloquent account of one of the twentieth century’s pivotal moments. Patrice Lumumba’s murder was a tragedy not just for his young and troubled country but also for the way it stimulated Washington’s illusion that America could rearrange the world to its liking. Stuart Reid captures this ominous turning point with the clear-eyed wisdom it deserves.” Furthermore, Yuval Noah Harari, author of Sapiens, said this in a recent interview with Ari Melber about why it’s important to study history.

Beyond any of these considerations, the story of Patrice Lumumba is the tragic, heroic tale of a man born into dismal, colonial circumstances, with the indomitable thirst for knowledge and the chutzpah and savvy to rise to become the first prime minister of his country, the former Belgian Congo, and who, within within mere months is assassinated under the direction of the CIA. Our guest, Stuart Reid, spent 6 years researching and writing this very engaging narrative. In addition to my appreciation of that, I am doubly grateful to him, because after engaging in an hour long interview, which I was then horrified to discover had not been recorded for unknown reasons, he graciously agreed to do a second interview, which I offer to you now.

Articles pertinent to this interview:

Conflict in the Democratic Republic of Congo https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/violence-democratic-republic-congo

The Overlooked Crisis in Congo: ‘We Live in War’ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/17/world/africa/democratic-republic-of-congo-elections.html

Patrice Lumumba: the most important assassination of the 20th century https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2011/jan/17/patrice-lumumba-50th-anniversary-assassination

Conflict in the Democratic Republic of Congo https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/violence-democratic-republic-congo

7 Million People in the Democratic Republic of the Congo Are Now Displaced https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/10/headlines/7_million_people_in_the_democratic_republic_of_the_congo_are_now_displaced

Twenty-four candidates sign up for Congolese presidential race in December https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/twenty-four-candidates-sign-up-congolese-presidential-race-december-2023-10-08/

Henri Lopes, 86, Who Straddled Literature and Politics in Africa, Dies https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/world/africa/henri-lopes-dead.html

What is UN Article 99 and why has Guterres called for it to be used? https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/palestine-israel/2023/12/07/what-is-un-article-99-and-why-has-guterres-called-for-it-to-be-used/

What is Article 99 of the UN Charter, invoked for the first time in decades as Israel attacks Gaza https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/everyday-explainers/article-99-un-invoke-israel-gaza-explained-9058381/

Yuval Noah Harari on conservatives losing, conspiracies, AI, religion & history Ari Melber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlni04mpDdg

LUMUMBA (2001) From the director of I AM NOT YOUR NEGRO. Made in the tradition of such true-life political thrillers as Malcolm X and JFK, Raoul Peck’s award-winning LUMUMBA is a gripping epic that dramatizes for the first time the rise and fall of legendary African leader Patrice Lumumba. When the Congo declared its independence from Belgium in 1960, Lumumba became the first Prime Minister of the newly independent state. Called “the politico of the bush” by journalists of the day, he became a lightning rod of Cold War politics as his vision of a united Africa gained him powerful enemies in Belgium and the U.S. “Peck, who assayed Lumumba’s life in a 1991 documentary, now paces the doomed man’s story like the genuine thriller that it is.” – Ella Taylor, L.A. Weekly Available for free on Kanopy.

Robert P. Jones THE HIDDEN ROOTS OF WHITE SUPREMACY and the Path to a Shared American Future

Robert P. Jones is the author of the book, THE HIDDEN ROOTS of WHITE SUPREMACY and the PATH to a SHARED AMERICAN FUTURE, published by Simon and Schuster.

His earlier award winning books include WHITE TOO LONG: THE LEGACY OF WHITE SUPREMACY IN AMERICAN CHRISTIANITY; THE END OF WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICA; and PROGRESSIVE AND RELIGIOUS: HOW CHRISTIAN, JEWISH, MUSLIM AND BUDDHIST LEADERS ARE MOVING BEYOND THE CULTURE WARS AND TRANSFORMING AMERICAN PUBLIC LIFE.

In this latest book, he reminds us that the enslavement of Africans was not America’s original sin, but rather the continuation of a pattern of genocide and dispossession that began with the first European contact with the Indigenous peoples of this land. His reframing of America’s origins explores how the founders of the US could build a democratic society on the foundations of mass racial violence, and why this paradox survives today in the form of White Christian Nationalism. Through three stories from our history and current re-examination and reckonings by those living today, he has illuminated the possibility of a new American future in which we finally fulfill the promise of true democracy.

We spoke with him on September 20, 2023 via Skype.

Articles or videos pertinent to this interview:

Nearing Her 109th Birthday, and Still Waiting for Her Day in Court https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/07/us/tulsa-race-massacre-lawsuit-oklahoma-supreme-court.html

“Apocalypticism”: Polling expert reveals the root of “panic among conservative White Christians” https://www.salon.com/2023/11/06/apocalypticism-polling-expert-reveals-the-root-of-panic-among-conservative-christians/

The Embodiment of White Christian Nationalism in a Tailored Suit https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/01/opinion/mike-johnson-christian-nationalism-speaker.html

Man in MAGA Hat Charged at Protest Against Reinstallation of Statue Honoring Spanish Conquistador in Española, New Mexico https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/30/man-maga-hat-new-mexico-shooting-charged

Judge dismisses charges against activists accused of disrupting Enbridge Line 3 https://www.startribune.com/judge-dismisses-charges-against-activists-accused-of-disrupting-enbridge-line-3/600305634/

This Supreme Court’s dangerous vision of ‘history and tradition’ https://religionnews.com/2022/07/04/this-supreme-courts-dangerous-vision-of-history-and-tradition/

The Unmaking of the White Christian Worldview https://time.com/6102117/white-christian-americans-sins/

White American Christianity Needs to Be Honest About Its History of White Supremacy https://time.com/5929478/christianity-white-supremacy/

The call is coming from inside the house: White Christian churches as incubators of anti-democratic sentiment https://baptistnews.com/article/the-call-is-coming-from-inside-the-house-white-christian-churches-as-incubators-of-anti-democratic-sentiment/

Colorado mountain honoring governor who led Indigenous massacre renamed https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/16/colorado-mountain-renamed-blue-sky-indigenous-massacre

Joe Biden Is Going To Have To Talk About Leonard Peltier https://www.huffpost.com/entry/leonard-peltier-joe-biden-clemency-indigenous-rights_n_64e7737ae4b07a9e3f5bc6dc

Tribes Strike Historic Deal for Return of Children Buried at Residential School https://truthout.org/articles/tribes-strike-historic-deal-for-return-of-children-buried-at-residential-school/?utm_source=Truthout&utm_campaign=a596a5632b-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_3_20_2023_13_41_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_bbb541a1db-a596a5632b-651106009&mc_cid=a596a5632b

Artifacts from the Tulsa Race Massacre https://getpocket.com/explore/item/artifacts-from-the-tulsa-race-massacre?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

The Cure at Troy by Seamus Heaney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiOaoOYNXpY

Look At Us (Peltier and AIM Song) – John Trudell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5szsygmZmY

John Trudell ” Religious vs Spiritual” Perception of Reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbjzujo1Qx8

Thom Hartmann The Hidden History of American Democracy & Robert Pape ‘The Dangers to Democracy’

This edition of Forthright Radio is in in two parts. In our first segment, radio& TV host/journalist and author, Thom Hartmann, returned with the latest in his Hidden History series, THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: REDISCOVERING HUMANITY’S ANCIENT WAY OF LIVING, published by B-K, Barrett-Kohler Publishers. This is the 8th book in the series and the 32nd of the books he has written. He has hosted his nationally syndicated show, The Thom Hartmann Program, since 2003. We spoke with Thom via Skype on July 24, 2023.

In our second segment, we spoke with University of Chicago Political Science Professor, Robert Pape, about the Project on Security and Threats (CPOST). You may recall their initial study published a few months after the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection, analyzing those who had been arrested & the surprising details they discovered. They have published a follow-up study and report from their most recent of 7 surveys since then, from this June, 2023, titled “The Dangers to Democracy.”

Robert Pape has been studying and writing about the causes and solutions to political violence since 1992 during the Bosnian War; and the 1999 War in Kosovo. In the 2000s, he studied suicide terrorism, as well as humanitarian intervention centering on appropriate international responses to political violence related to the Arab Spring in Libya and Syria. Professor Pape has testified before Congress, briefed the National Security Council and the UN Counter-Terrorism Executive Directorate. In 2020, he published the results of his analysis of the impact of the deployment of Homeland Security agents on political violence in Portland, OR, during the George Floyd demonstrations. In 2021, he published the first systematic study of the demographic profile and political geography of individuals arrested for assaulting the US Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. The Project on Security and Threats, has continued the surveys, and recently released the report on their 7th survey, titled The Dangers to Democracy. We spoke with Professor Pape on July 26, 2023 via Skype.

What the Glorification of Luigi Mangione Reveals About America https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/12/opinion/luigi-mangione-united-healthcare-ceo-shooting.html

You can see THE DANGERS TO DEMOCRACY report here: https://d3qi0qp55mx5f5.cloudfront.net/cpost/i/docs/2023-04_CPOST-NORC_Survey_Report.pdf?mtime=1690380798

Articles pertinent to these interviews:

‘Anger and radicalization’: rising number of Americans say political violence is justified https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/25/us-political-crisis-radicalizing-republicans-democrats-alike

Understanding American Domestic Terrorism https://cpost.uchicago.edu/publications/understanding_american_domestic_terrorism_mobilization_potential_and_risk_factors_of_a_new_threat_trajectory/

How Trump’s Plan for the Military Could Topple America https://hartmannreport.com/p/how-trumps-plan-for-the-department-b10

Trump and Allies Forge Plans to Increase Presidential Power in 2025 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/us/politics/trump-plans-2025.html

How Democracy Dies the First Month of the Next Trump or GOP Presidency https://hartmannreport.com/p/how-democracy-dies-the-first-month-6a3

Trump’s plans for 2025 sound like a vengeful disaster https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-presidential-power-second-term-2024-autocracy-rcna95098?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

How Long Will Politicians Be Able to Ignore the Planet Becoming Unlivable? https://hartmannreport.com/p/how-long-will-politicians-be-able-ed4

DeSantis’s Apartheid Pedagogy in the Age of Fascist Politics https://www.laprogressive.com/election-reform-campaigns/apartheid-pedagogy

The Redneck Army Refuses to Stay Buried https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/21/opinion/culture/west-virginia-strike-coal-miner-history.html

Everything They Owned Burned, and They Still Can’t Get Restitution 102 Years Later https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/28/opinion/tulsa-race-massacre-reparations.html

“Anonymous” Miles Taylor: Trump Second Term Would Focus Solely on Revenge | Amanpour and Company https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eqm5wuSN9s

Held v State of Montana Day 7 Closing Arguments

This special edition of Ecotones is the final daily audio digest of the historic Held v State of Montana trial.

On the final day of this trial, one day before the summer solstice, on June 20, 2023, closing arguments were given before Judge Kathy Seeley, presiding judge of the Lewis and Clark District Court in Helena, MT.

Our Children’s Trust Senior Staff Attorney, Nate Bellinger, delivered the plaintiffs’ closing arguments, followed by Montana Assistant Attorney General, Michael Russell, delivering closing arguments for the State.

Judge Kathy Seeley presides as plaintiffs’ attorney, Nate Bellinger, delivers closing arguments.

Before these remarks, plaintiffs’ attorney Philip Gregory, offered further information attacking the credibility of the State’s lone outside expert witness, economist Dr. Terry Anderson, submitting a report documenting errors of his sources and information, and asking the court to take judicial notice, which the court granted. The audio of this portion of the proceedings, which came before the closing arguments was problematic, and our best efforts only made marginal improvements, so we have put this portion at the end of this recording after the closing arguments.

Held v State of Montana – Day 3 Daily Digest

We continue our coverage of the historic Held v State of Montana proceedings with this audio daily digest of the hearing from June 14, 2023. Dr. Lori Byron continued her testimony from June 13th, discussing Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and human generated catastrophic climate change. http://kgvm.org/show/held-v-state-of-montana-dr-lori-byron-testimony-6-13-23/

After cross examination of Dr. Byron by Defense Attorney for the State of Montana, Mark Stermitz, attorneys for the plaintiffs called Dr. Shane Doyle to the witness stand, testifying on behalf of his daughters, two of the youth plaintiffs, Ruby and Lillian Doyle. http://kgvm.org/show/held-v-state-of-montana-shane-doyle-testimony-6-14-23/

They then called Michael Durglo, Jr., head of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes’ Tribal Historic Department. http://kgvm.org/show/held-v-state-of-montana-michael-durglo-jr/

Our Children’s Lungs Are Uniquely Vulnerable to All This Wildfire Smoke https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/02/opinion/wildfire-smoke-air-quality-kids-children-health.html

Held v State of Montana – Day 2 Daily Digest

Beginning on Monday, June 12, 2023, in the Lewis & Clark County District Court in Helena, Judge Kathy Seely presiding, attorneys for 16 youth plaintiffs in the case of Held v. State of Montana began. We have recorded the proceedings via Zoom, and produced for you this daily audio digest.

Judge Seely opened the second day of this trial at 9 a.m on June 13, 2023, one year to the day of the Great Yellowstone River flood of 2022, which closed Yellowstone National Park, and wreaked havoc along the path of the river, including Livingston, hometown of one of the youth plaintiffs, Eva.

Dr. Cathy Whitlock

Today’s hearing began with expert testimony from Dr. Cathy Whitlock, an earth scientist and professor emeritus at Montana State University, who is an expert in environmental change and paleoclimatology, and was a lead author of the 2017 Montana Climate Assessment. http://kgvm.org/show/held-dr-cathy-whitlock-testimony-6-13-23/

Dr. Whitlock was followed by testimony from youth plaintiff, Mica K. http://kgvm.org/show/held-v-state-of-montana-mica-testimony-6-13-23/

After Mica, youth plaintiff, Badge Busse, testified. http://kgvm.org/show/held-v-state-of-montana-badge-testimony-6-13-23/

Dr. Daniel Fagre testified about his work studying the effects of climate change in Glacier National Park. http://kgvm.org/show/held-v-state-of-montana-dr-dan-fagre-6-13-23/

Dr. Dan Fagre in Glacier National Park

The final expert witness on this second day of the Held v State of Montana trial was pediatrician, Dr Lori Byron. http://kgvm.org/show/held-v-state-of-montana-dr-lori-byron-testimony-6-13-23/

Dr. Lori Byron

The trial is scheduled to resume at 9 am on Wednesday, June 14, 2023, and we will continue to produce this daily digest of the proceedings.

‘I’m a prisoner in my own home,’ asthma sufferer, 15, tells landmark US climate trial https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/13/montana-landmark-us-climate-trial

Love of the Land and Community Inspired the Montana Youths Whose Climate Lawsuit Against the State Goes to Court This Week https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12062023/love-of-the-land-and-community-inspired-the-montana-youths-whose-climate-lawsuit-against-the-state-goes-to-court-this-week/

Ian Garrett GROUNDWORKS

GROUNDWORKS travels from traditional acorn gathering spots to the studios where the “Groundworks” performance was rehearsed before being shared at sunrise on Alcatraz—nearly 50 years after the Indians of All Tribes occupied the island and brought attention to Native American rights. Originally initiated by contemporary dance company Dancing Earth Creations, the “Groundworks” project was designed to amplify the oft-forgotten Native presence everywhere in the Americas.

Groundworks weaves together four artists’ stories and their contemporary ways of sharing traditional Indigenous knowledge. By exploring their creative practices, it highlights these Native artists’ contemporary relationships to the Pomo, Ohlone, Tongva, and Wappo/Onastatis territories, languages and traditions. Their efforts to “re-story” the land through creative reclamation are important facets of the Land Back movement.

Bernadette Smith is a Pomo singer, musician, and playwright from the Point Arena Manchester Band of Pomo Indians. She is an activist leader involved with Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and brought her whole family to Standing Rock to protect water rights. She is currently working on reclaiming land traditionally used by her tribe for their acorn harvest, and on protecting the source of those acorns—the tan oak—from hack-and-squirt clearing to make way for managed redwoods.

Profiled in the documentary are Ras K’dee, Pomo, a musician with ties to multiple bands in Sonoma and Mendocino Counties; Bernadette Smith, singer and dancer from the Manchester-Point Arena Band of Pomo Indians; Kanyon Sayers-Roods, a multidisciplinary Ohlone artist from Indian Canyon, a sovereign Indian Nation outside of Hollister, California; and L. Frank, a Tongva-Acjachemen artist, tribal scholar, canoe builder, and language advocate.

We spoke with director, producer, writer and cinematographer, Ian Garrett, about his film, GROUNDWORKS, via Skype on May 16, 2023.

GROUNDWORKS will be screening at the Mendocino FilmFestival on June 4 at 3pm in the Festival Tent. A special program with Coastal Pomo dancers will open the program and a panel discussion will follow. 

The Pirate Radio Broadcaster Who Occupied Alcatraz and Terrified the FBI https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-pirate-radio-broadcaster-who-occupied-alcatraz-and-terrified-the-fbi?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Red Natural History https://socialtextjournal.org/periscope_topic/red_natural_history/?link_id=3&can_id=26389c9ba4e6ef1db60b08fdce8085f1&source=email-duplicate-me-4-section-template-2&email_referrer=email_1839282&email_subject=red-natural-history-a-growing-movement-of-scientists-and-scholars

TOWN DESTROYER: Alan Snitow & Deborah Kaufman

As a nation, we are in the throes of a re-examination of history, but whose history, and who gets to tell it, and how do we live today with various versions of our history, that were memorialized in the past? How do we best evaluate and live with the impacts of different versions of history and the potential harm and even re-traumatization that a particular version creates?

What role does art play in this process? whose art? and for whom?

These are among the questions addressed by the filmmakers, Alan Snitow and Deborah Kaufman, in their documentary, TOWN DESTROYER, which screens on Friday, June 2nd, at 1:00 PM at The Coast Cinemas.

You may recall the furor over whether or not to destroy or cover up the 13 panels of the 1930s murals by Popular Front artist, Victor Arnautoff, THE LIFE OF WASHINGTON, at San Francisco’s George Washington High School. Snitow & Kaufman film students, parents, Native American activists, artists of different ethnicities, scholars, and museum directors, all against a background of vivid cinematography of the controversial panels, as well as many other relevant works of art, both at the high school, and elsewhere across the country.

Alan Snitow and Deborah Kaufman’s films include the award-winning “Company Town,” “Between Two Worlds,” “Thirst”, “Secrets of Silicon Valley”, and “Blacks and Jews.”

Alan was a producer at the KTVU-TV News, the Bay Area Fox affiliate, for 12 years. Before that, he was an award winning News Director at KPFA-FM. He has served on the Boards of the National Federation of Community Broadcasters, Film Arts Foundation, California Media Collaborative, Food and Water Watch, and much more.

Deborah Kaufman founded and for 13 years was Director of the San Francisco Jewish Film Festival, the first and largest independent Jewish film showcase in the world. She has been a Board member of the California Council for the Humanities, the New Israel Fund, and Amnesty International USA. She has been a consultant, programmer, lecturer, and activist with a variety of human rights, multicultural and media arts organizations.

We spoke with Deborah and Alan on May 8, 2023 via Skype.

“Early Days” Pioneer Monument by Frank Happersberger, Installed 1894 in SF Civic Center Plaza

These High School Murals Depict an Ugly History. Should They Go? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/arts/design/george-washington-murals-ugly-history-debated.html?searchResultPosition=1

Think Confederate monuments are racist? Consider pioneer monuments https://theconversation.com/think-confederate-monuments-are-racist-consider-pioneer-monuments-100571

San Franciscans demand removal of anti-native monument https://sf.curbed.com/2017/8/22/16184590/pioneer-monument-confederate-statues

California reparations panel OKs state apology, payments https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/california-reparations-task-force-to-vote-on-18082723.php

David Treuer – The Heartbeat of Wounded Knee: Native America from 1890 to the Present https://forthright.media/2019/03/14/david-treuer-the-heartbeat-of-wounded-knee-native-americafrom-1890-present/

Benjamin Madley – AN AMERICAN GENOCIDE: The United States and the California Indian Catastrophe 1846-1873 https://forthright.media/2016/10/05/benjamin-madley-an-american-genocide-the-united-states-and-the-california-indian-catastrophe-1846-1873/

Clarence Lusane – TWENTY DOLLARS AND CHANGE: Harriet Tubman and the Ongoing Fight for Racial Justice and Democracy https://forthright.media/2023/01/12/clarence-lusane-twenty-dollars-and-change-harriet-tubman-and-the-ongoing-fight-for-racial-justice-and-democracy/

Stan Rushworth – WE ARE THE MIDDLE OF FOREVER: Indigenous Voices from Turtle Island on the Changing Earth https://forthright.media/2022/08/11/stan-rushworth-we-are-the-middle-of-forever-indigenous-voices-from-turtle-island-on-the-changing-earth/

Daniel Golding – CHASING VOICES: The Story of John Peabody Harrington https://forthright.media/2022/05/10/daniel-golding-chasing-voices-the-story-of-john-peabody-harrington/

Gale Anne Hurd MANKILLER https://forthright.media/2018/05/31/gale-anne-hurd-mankiller/

William Hogeland – THE AUTUMN OF THE BLACK SNAKE: The Creation of the U.S. Army and the Invasion That Opened the West https://forthright.media/2017/07/19/william-hogeland-the-autumn-of-the-black-snake-the-creation-of-the-u-s-army-and-the-invasion-that-opened-the-west/

JAMIE MACGILLIVRAY: The Renegade’s Journey by John Sayles, 2022

Roxanna Asgarian WE WERE ONCE A FAMILY: A Story of Love, Death, and Child Removal in America

You may recall the horrifying news that hit the airwaves on March 26, 2018 about a van that had driven off the 100 foot cliff on HWY 1 just south of Juan Creek between Rockport and Westport on the north coast of Mendocino County, CA. Bad as the initial reports were, as more was learned about what had actually happened and what led up to it, the horror only grew.

CA Highway Patrol

Texas based journalist, Roxanna Asgarian, began investigating the tragedy within a day. Her investigations since have resulted in her book, WE WERE ONCE A FAMILY: A STORY OF LOVE, DEATH, AND CHILD REMOVAL IN AMERICA, published in March, 2023 by Farrar, Straus & Giroux.

It won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction for books published in 2023.

She writes it as the true crime story that it certainly is, but her primary goal was to uncover the untold stories of the birth families of the six Black children taken from their families, who did NOT want to give them up, and who were making efforts to keep them, when the deeply flawed child welfare system thrust them first into the foster care system, and then fast tracked them into out of state adoptions.

Roxanna Asgarian reports about courts and the law for the Texas Tribune. Her work has appeared in the Washington Post, New York Magazine and Texas Monthly, as well as other publications. She received the 2022 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-Progress Award for WE WERE ONCE A FAMILY: A STORY OF LOVE, DEATH, AND CHILD REMOVAL IN AMERICA. It goes well beyond the earlier, sensationalist reportage by the mainstream press and delves into the systems and history that allowed this murder/suicide to happen. We spoke with her via Skype on April 10, 2023.

Devonte Hart, seen in 2014 hugging a police officer at a Black Lives Matter protest. (Johnny Huu Nguyen/AP)

Tragic as this story of innocent children taken from their birth families by a Child Protection Service system which purports to protect children, it is but one aspect of our society that does NOT protect innocent children. 

Once again, another mass shooting at a school ended in the murder and traumatizing of children, this one at the Covenant School in Nashville, TN, which led to protests at the State Legislature, the expulsion of two young black representatives, their unanimous reinstatement to represent their districts, and more diverse voices calling out the politicians only too happy to maintain the status quo.

One mourns the loss of the Hart children, particularly Devonte Hart, whose famous “hug heard around the world” – showing Devonte’s tear streaked face at the age of 14 hugging a white police officer during a tense demonstration protesting the killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. He, with his “Free Hugs” sign, would have been 20 years old now. What might he have become, had his life not been cut short, his body never found?

The broadcast ended with Cheryl Wheeler’s song, “If It Were Up to Me,” which you can hear using this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op7agdIFOGY. It is sadly even more relevant than when she first recorded it in 1997.

Articles, videos, etc. pertinent to this episode:

Texas removed six Black children from their homes. Their adoptive parents drove them off a cliff. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/14/texas-child-welfare-removal-hart-family-deaths/

Hart family inquest finds parents intentionally killed their 6 children on Mendocino Coast https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/04/06/hart-family-inquest-finds-parents-intentionally-killed-their-children/

We Were Once a Family’ explores flaws in foster, adoption systems and 6 children’s resulting deaths https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2023/04/11/we-were-once-family-book-adoption

Friends, neighbors paint uneven picture of the Harts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6eGzCC4bk

Mountain Shadow Association https://www.mountainshadowassociation.org/

The Doyle Family: Native American Children’s Toy Company & The Family Healing Center https://forthright.media/2019/12/28/the-doyle-family-native-american-childrens-toy-company-the-family-healing-center/

“Aren’t You Guys Tired of Covering This?”: Mom Interrupts Fox News Segment on Nashville School Shooting https://newrepublic.com/post/171414/mom-interrupts-fox-news-segment-nashville-school-shooting

Gregg Popovich Slams GOP With Intense Pregame Speech On Gun Violence https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gregg-popovich-tennessee-house-expelling-democrats_n_643398dae4b0b51a6ce1aa20

Child Gun Deaths Rose 50 Percent in Just 2 Years, Research Finds https://truthout.org/articles/child-gun-deaths-rose-50-percent-in-just-2-years-research-finds/?utm_source=Truthout&utm_campaign=d5a023de39-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_3_20_2023_13_41_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_bbb541a1db-d5a023de39-651106009&mc_cid=d5a023de39&mc_eid=f9703b4752

Just 2 Days After Shooting, Republicans Vote to Loosen Gun Law in North Carolina https://truthout.org/articles/just-2-days-after-shooting-republicans-vote-to-loosen-gun-law-in-north-carolina/

South Dakota Governor Says Her Two Year Old Grandchild Already Has Several Guns https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/15/south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-grandchild-guns-nra

We’re misunderstanding how child abuse happens — and that has deadly consequences for kids https://www.salon.com/2023/04/09/how-child-abuse-happens/

The Supreme Court will decide the future of the Indian Child Welfare Act https://www.npr.org/2022/11/08/1135190325/the-supreme-court-will-decide-the-future-of-the-indian-child-welfare-act

Supreme Court Held oral Argument on Case Challenging the Indian Child Welfare Act https://ncuih.org/2023/01/31/supreme-court-held-oral-argument-on-case-challenging-the-indian-child-welfare-act/

Montana ICWA bill heads to Senate floor amid controversyMontana ICWA bill heads to Senate floor amid controversy https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/mtleg/montana-icwa-bill-heads-to-senate-floor-amid-controversy/article_ae2099f9-8811-572c-aac7-d033669f82ec.html

Mona Chalabi’s datablog: Iraq war leukemia rates worse than after Hiroshima bombing https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2023/apr/02/iraq-war-hiroshima-bombing-leukemia-rates

The GOP Embraces the Kyle Rittenhouse Approach to Kindergarten https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/03/nashville-shooting-desantis-gop-book-bans.html